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		<title>By: Kieran Healy&#8217;s Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ben Domenech</title>
		<link>http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/05/08/copycats/comment-page-2/#comment-2280</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran Healy&#8217;s Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ben Domenech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A couple of years ago I wrote a post about kinds of plagiarism by college students: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Invisible Adjunct</title>
		<link>http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/05/08/copycats/comment-page-1/#comment-1395</link>
		<dc:creator>Invisible Adjunct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My ambition, naturally, is to have a student quote my own words back to me without attribution in a final paper. Thats an office hour Id look forward to.&quot;

The secret (or, I guess, no longer secret) ambition of anyone who&#039;s ever had to &quot;google&quot; a student paper.

I have to give you credit: plagiarism is tedious and dispiriting, but you&#039;ve made it funny.

My all-time favourite: a paper on Luther lifted directly from the Catholic Encyclopedia.  The student never quite got the point that the article damned Luther by faint praise.

Where I teach, we are not allowed to use turnitin.com.  Fear of lawsuits.  Use of the service requires entering text of the student&#039;s paper into some sort of database: the concern seems to be that a student might argue that his/her words had been published/made public without permission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;My ambition, naturally, is to have a student quote my own words back to me without attribution in a final paper. Thats an office hour Id look forward to.&#8221;</p>

	<p>The secret (or, I guess, no longer secret) ambition of anyone who&#8217;s ever had to &#8220;google&#8221; a student paper.</p>

	<p>I have to give you credit: plagiarism is tedious and dispiriting, but you&#8217;ve made it funny.</p>

	<p>My all-time favourite: a paper on Luther lifted directly from the Catholic Encyclopedia.  The student never quite got the point that the article damned Luther by faint praise.</p>

	<p>Where I teach, we are not allowed to use turnitin.com.  Fear of lawsuits.  Use of the service requires entering text of the student&#8217;s paper into some sort of database: the concern seems to be that a student might argue that his/her words had been published/made public without permission.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran Healy</title>
		<link>http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/05/08/copycats/comment-page-1/#comment-1396</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where I teach, we are not allowed to use turnitin.com.

I&#039;ve never used it myself, either. But I don&#039;t think we have a policy against it. 

Fear of lawsuits... the concern seems to be that a student might argue that his/her words had been published/made public without permission.

Ha! Oh, the irony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Where I teach, we are not allowed to use turnitin.com.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;ve never used it myself, either. But I don&#8217;t think we have a policy against it.</p>

	<p>Fear of lawsuits&#8230; the concern seems to be that a student might argue that his/her words had been published/made public without permission.</p>

	<p>Ha! Oh, the irony.</p>
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		<title>By: Martial</title>
		<link>http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/05/08/copycats/comment-page-1/#comment-1397</link>
		<dc:creator>Martial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife was once handed a paper with the links in it still underlined. I thought that was hysterical; she was pissed; the student couldn&#039;t figure out how he&#039;d been caught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My wife was once handed a paper with the links in it still underlined. I thought that was hysterical; she was pissed; the student couldn&#8217;t figure out how he&#8217;d been caught.</p>
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		<title>By: Invisible Adjunct</title>
		<link>http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/05/08/copycats/comment-page-1/#comment-1398</link>
		<dc:creator>Invisible Adjunct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My wife was once handed a paper with the links in it still underlined.&quot; 

Been there.  I&#039;ve also received a paper with the URL printed at the top of each page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;My wife was once handed a paper with the links in it still underlined.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Been there.  I&#8217;ve also received a paper with the <span class="caps">URL</span> printed at the top of each page.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/05/08/copycats/comment-page-1/#comment-1399</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That doesn&#8217;t mean well-executed copying is better, just that it&#8217;s a slightly different sort of insult.&quot;

Ugh.  I&#039;ve received identical submissions from multiple students, with only the font differing between them (to be fair, in this case we allowed students to work together on a specific assignment - but requested they submit their own write-up).  It was depressing to have to explain - to very bright graduate students - that making cosmetic changes doesn&#039;t qualify as &quot;doing your own work.&quot;      

&quot;My ambition, naturally, is to have a student quote my own words back to me ... &quot;

A friend of mine at a prestigious university had her own words quoted back to her in a doctoral proposal (!).  When she pointed this out, it was revealed that the doctoral candidate&#039;s advisor had recommended simply copying my friend&#039;s text since, naturally, she&#039;d approve her own design.  I&#039;d never heard of such a thing, but, needless to say, it put my friend (a somewhat junior faculty member at the time) in a rather awkward position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;That doesn&#8217;t mean well-executed copying is better, just that it&#8217;s a slightly different sort of insult.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Ugh.  I&#8217;ve received identical submissions from multiple students, with only the font differing between them (to be fair, in this case we allowed students to work together on a specific assignment &#8211; but requested they submit their own write-up).  It was depressing to have to explain &#8211; to very bright graduate students &#8211; that making cosmetic changes doesn&#8217;t qualify as &#8220;doing your own work.&#8221;</p>

	<p>&#8220;My ambition, naturally, is to have a student quote my own words back to me &#8230; &#8221;</p>

	<p>A friend of mine at a prestigious university had her own words quoted back to her in a doctoral proposal (!).  When she pointed this out, it was revealed that the doctoral candidate&#8217;s advisor had recommended simply copying my friend&#8217;s text since, naturally, she&#8217;d approve her own design.  I&#8217;d never heard of such a thing, but, needless to say, it put my friend (a somewhat junior faculty member at the time) in a rather awkward position.</p>
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		<title>By: ogged</title>
		<link>http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/05/08/copycats/comment-page-1/#comment-1400</link>
		<dc:creator>ogged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does no one take pride in flunking anymore?  

Now that I type it, I realize you almost never even hear the word &quot;flunk.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Does no one take pride in flunking anymore?</p>

	<p>Now that I type it, I realize you almost never even hear the word &#8220;flunk.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Mariann</title>
		<link>http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/05/08/copycats/comment-page-1/#comment-1401</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google is my best friend in teaching.  No matter how many times I remind students that if they find material on Google, I&#039;ll find it, too, there&#039;s that ten percent who still cheats.  I use TurnItIn.com only when I absolutely cannot find anything through Google or if I need something formal for my chair.

I&#039;ve only had one student protest his zero. He actually demanded a grade review on the assignment, accusing me of racism because he would never cheat.  When I gave his two plagiarized papers to the composition director, heavily highlighted in bright yellow, with the original source material, she agreed with my decision.  The student quickly switched to audit my course, and I&#039;m going to guess he&#039;s still cheating nearly a year later.

My favorite plagiarized submissions include papers with obvious font differences and papers with sudden shifts from mediocre to sophisticated vocabulary.  The biggest clues (outside of physical differences) that gave away plagiarism for me focus on sentence structure and vocabulary.  When a student can&#039;t spell &quot;cosmopolitan,&quot; but uses &quot;myriad&quot; properly, my Spidey-sense starts tingling.  Sometimes I get really excited about nailing plagiarism, and other times, I&#039;m really depressed about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Google is my best friend in teaching.  No matter how many times I remind students that if they find material on Google, I&#8217;ll find it, too, there&#8217;s that ten percent who still cheats.  I use TurnItIn.com only when I absolutely cannot find anything through Google or if I need something formal for my chair.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;ve only had one student protest his zero. He actually demanded a grade review on the assignment, accusing me of racism because he would never cheat.  When I gave his two plagiarized papers to the composition director, heavily highlighted in bright yellow, with the original source material, she agreed with my decision.  The student quickly switched to audit my course, and I&#8217;m going to guess he&#8217;s still cheating nearly a year later.</p>

	<p>My favorite plagiarized submissions include papers with obvious font differences and papers with sudden shifts from mediocre to sophisticated vocabulary.  The biggest clues (outside of physical differences) that gave away plagiarism for me focus on sentence structure and vocabulary.  When a student can&#8217;t spell &#8220;cosmopolitan,&#8221; but uses &#8220;myriad&#8221; properly, my Spidey-sense starts tingling.  Sometimes I get really excited about nailing plagiarism, and other times, I&#8217;m really depressed about it.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/05/08/copycats/comment-page-1/#comment-1402</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a student who &quot;borrowed&quot; a friend&#039;s paper, but she couldn&#039;t figure out how to get her friend&#039;s name out of the header at the top of every page, so she tore off the right-hand corner of every page.

It almost worked, but while I was in a conference with her and another student, the other student kept subtly (and then not-so-subtly) pointing to the torn corners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I had a student who &#8220;borrowed&#8221; a friend&#8217;s paper, but she couldn&#8217;t figure out how to get her friend&#8217;s name out of the header at the top of every page, so she tore off the right-hand corner of every page.</p>

	<p>It almost worked, but while I was in a conference with her and another student, the other student kept subtly (and then not-so-subtly) pointing to the torn corners.</p>
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		<title>By: Heath</title>
		<link>http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/05/08/copycats/comment-page-1/#comment-1403</link>
		<dc:creator>Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m not at the (fortunate?) level of having to teach, where trying to catch these bozos is just part of the job.  To long for the days when I was in college, when the internet was so new and relatively unconnected that research online was mostly a waste of time, if you even had access (which I didn&#039;t).  Research done the old-fashioned way (books! egads!) always made me appreciate the effort that much more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I guess I&#8217;m not at the (fortunate?) level of having to teach, where trying to catch these bozos is just part of the job.  To long for the days when I was in college, when the internet was so new and relatively unconnected that research online was mostly a waste of time, if you even had access (which I didn&#8217;t).  Research done the old-fashioned way (books! egads!) always made me appreciate the effort that much more.</p>
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